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Tata Sky DTH: TataSky DTH on Laptop, need suggestions

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 12:40 PM PDT

Hello guys, I'm planning to purchase a second TataSky setup in my room to watch TV on my laptop and I intend to do it in one of the following ways.

1.Purchase the Set-top Box, USB tv tuner for laptop and connect it through RF/composiste to the tv tuner and watch TV. (the wired setup is inconvenient )

OR


2. Purchase the Set-top box, connect it to some wireless device, possibly one that transmits Television signals wirelessly or connect a wireless router to the Set-top Box and watch the Television on my laptop wirelessly thorugh the wifi network.(this is the preferred way)

I'm certain someone has definitely encountered this issue previously and if there's an existing thread give me the link to the same, if not advise me accordingly.

Diagramatic represntation would help greatly.

Thanks

MTNL Introduces 100mbps Unlimited Plans - Per Month Cost more than the Tata Nano

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 12:18 PM PDT

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Originally Posted by manu1991 View Post
Launch of FTTH Internet High Speed BB plans

to be fair, there is a discount if you pay by the year. you only have to pay 24lacs.

Don't forget service tax is payable on the top of this pricing.

Too bad there is no punishment specified in Indian law for incompetent government employees.

HTC Evo 4G LTE

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 12:11 PM PDT

Microsoft SkyDrive Updates

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 11:37 AM PDT

Good Broadband Provider in Vikaspuri, New Delhi - Disconnecting Airtel

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 11:28 AM PDT

The forum already has loads of threads on the modem/router topic.

Had you paid for the airtel modem ?

Zee Dish TV TruHD: Got dish tru hd connection

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 11:26 AM PDT

p is supposed to be much better than i. that's what i have read online. i have a hd camcorder and i think it shoots in 1080i i do not like the end videos too much interlacing in it if that is the correct term. :|

Broadband provider in Gurgaon

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 11:25 AM PDT

Right. Tata is bad only if they have monopoly in your society. Reliance is bad, always. But afaik, op, if you're still living where you used to, only one society has tata, and none have rcom. YOU too isn't present. Have you yet not got the new plan from bsnl ?

LCO, if present, is another option.

India among countries with worst internet connections

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 11:25 AM PDT

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Originally Posted by mreccentric View Post
I Guess the minimum speed requirement now is 1mbps. 512 is also gone.
Just think, with this low speeds, guys are downloading 10's to 100's of GBs per month. What happens if they really speed up the Internet, here in India?

I was going to give a similar answer to Kickass. In short: usage will rise, but only a bit - it's certainly not going to rise by 10 or 100x as the operators seem to think it will (based on their pricing plans).

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Yeah. They aren't idiots. They are investing $1b for LTE but they will keep all cards in their hands. They will not let to go their all money waste but they also will not provide their resources at cheap rate. You know LTE instruments are very costly which will definitely affect end user price.

Oh are they? So why then are the retail rates in other markets not very high? LTE devices are only "expensive" now because they are new, but not as expensive as 3G devices were back when 3G came out. AFAIK LTE base stations are cheaper than 3G ones, as well since there's no conversion needed.

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I know BSNL is surviving nowadays but it is capable to change its financial product. I think broadband product was great but because of poor service and high bills, they lost a lot customers. If they manage to offer FTTH before other companies' launch at good rate with good service, it may change situation. They lost much in wimax product also. Recently, they have requested for refund of BWA spectrum I do not know it is a threat to avoid 2g spectrum auction or needs finance back or an excuse of non standardize frequency. I think instruments are available in the market with that frequency.

BSNL is capable of changing if it sheds maybe 70% of it's workforce. On a network level, the fact that there are so many complaints about it is probably due mostly to the scale. They requested a refund for their BWA (Wimax) spectrum because they were viewing Wimax as a commercial failure due to the model they'd chosen (franchisees weren't living up to their end of the bargain) - I don't believe it had anything to do with 2G spectrum.

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Originally Posted by acc1444 View Post
If fiber is cheap, why don't they implement? I am not saying you are wrong.
In any technology whether it is wimax, LTE, 3g or any other else, CPE and instruments are costly. I have read somewhere government were discussing to make CPE and instrument tax free to cut down price of internet. I don't know it is implement or when will it be implemented?

I believe they were planning to cut down on domestically manufactured devices, not imported ones. Personally, I wouldn't touch any of the domestically manufactured equipment that I've seen or had demoed to me with a 10-foot barge pole. It might be OK for someone else, so I doubt I'd be seeing any effect on pricing from such tax cuts.

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Originally Posted by acc1444 View Post
About Wimax, I have already told my experience of internet regarding interference. Free licensed ISPs are already facing it. Even tata communication or reliance hold licensed wimax spectrum they face some issue as I experience with tata wimax. I was getting high latency from default gateway as well as any website. It depends upon couple of factors like low signal, poor speed management system at tata side(high 1: ratio) causing download speed variation ranging from 10k to 28k(for 256kbps tariff). I didn't get 32kbps or more ever with tata wimax. I tested a lot during late night hours and day time when I expect less peak requirement but not good performance. I did not have clear LOS and I had numbers of tower near to my location(very close).

I know speeds are wasted in wireless communication. If high speed is given to customers, there is huge variation between at node and customer's location.

People expected too much from Wimax. Then from 3G. And now LTE. We found Wimax practically fell over under any kind of significant load. 3G fares marginally better up to a point. LTE is a bit more efficient from that. Nothing is perfect: not even wireline products. It just so happens however, that QoS on a wired product is easier to guarantee, diagnose or fix.

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Originally Posted by acc1444 View Post
Again, Reliance is investing in LTE not in FTTH. If reliance invest in FTTH rather than LTE, FTTH will be better performance wise just because they have strong global backbone according to me. No need to worry. What would you say?

RIL != RCOM. RIL has zero global backbone. RIL is investing in LTE because it is probably the cheapest way for them to get that product to market. It may also be the case that they are not (yet) in the wireline (FTTx) market to avoid competing with RCOM. Anil would probably throw a shitfit if Mukesh moved in and tried to kill Anil's prize pig.

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Originally Posted by acc1444 View Post
FTTH establishment is a headache to setup last mile but anyone has to start rolling the the fiber all over the nation. They can not speed up but at least they can roll in major cities not in every city or village. How long have we to rely on coppers while whole world is adopting fiber??
if it is Catch-22, anyone has to come ahead to change for development. In this situation, government has to play important role. No private company or its investors waits longer for its return. Government is expecting it by 2014 even though they are willing to invest 6k crore. They must be kidding for this kind of long time.

What the government expects and what the government will get are 2 very VERY different things. Frankly, FTTH is not yet 100% necessary (say what now?)... YET. FTTB is sufficient for the time being - it'll do 100mbit/s reasonably comfortably HOWEVER, if you're going to start building an FTTx network from scratch like we are, we figure we might as well start now so as to avoid having to build it (effectively) twice. Less cost to us, shorter RoI for our investors.

Other operators may already have legacy networks which don't need so much actual fiber upgrading, but just more fiber so that they can bring the media convertor (whether that's a DSLAM, ONU, Switch, Repeater, BTS, whatever) closer to the user - so the DSL that's currently operating from the exchange starts to be put in cabinets all over the place.

For those in Mumbai, you know those MTNL cabinets you see everywhere which are full of a bunch of wires? Those cabinets could be repurposed, fiber run all the way to the cabinet, then all the wires ripped out and replaced with shiny new mini-DSLAMs which means your copper loop becomes much shorter and your potential speed much higher - your lines which currently sync a max of 6-ish mbit/s suddenly start syncing at 15 or so with cleaner line stats and, if they upgrade the plan speeds, much better throughput... better still, since they would likely be buying VDSL DSLAMs, offerings offer a nice intermediary for companies like MTNL to start really promoting triple-play services and decent speed Internet (30-50mbit/s) before the FTTH products really come in to their own.

Sadly though, the lifespan of DSL in it's current forms (not counting future upgrades/bonding/etc) is almost over already (maybe 10 years more at most) so moving straight to fiber in a similar configuration is actually the best option BUT then the problem remains that consumers won't want to be forced to upgrade their own CPEs (especially considering the cost), so they'll probably end up HAVING to take this route of cabinets with VDSL and building the FTTH network alongside the existing DSL network, which for them means most expenditure: THIS is the catch 22, I think, and where the private companies can get an edge on the public ones.

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I see that you often mention this on ur BIG reply in IBF. I cant even imagine sleeping in a house without bar(read-iron..lol) on the windows. Just a glass on the window in India would be a boon to thief's. When a voice call signal reaches in a closed space y not a Data signal?

I don't know about you, but voice signals have difficulty in my house. Moreover, Data signals are much more sensitive. A voice signal is 64kbit/s or less. Even a 2G data signal is twice that, let alone 3G/WiMax/LTE. In some apartments (mother in law's would be a famous example) literally moving inward 20cm from the outer edge of the balcony makes all the difference between a 2G/EDGE signal or a 3G one: it can be that bad. However, there are other factors which can cause it to be like this, such as the location of and/or distance from the BTS: I think they're only about 100-150m away from the nearest one but it isn't even remotely close to line-of-sight. If it were, said bars may have a lesser effect.

Best Air Conditioner for Indian Conditions

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 11:02 AM PDT

Well everything is sorted out after the showroom manager pushed the installer to check, he came again and found out that compressor fan was not running due to obstruction of frame itself, he did some alignments by pushing the fan back and stuff, and everything is fine now.

AC cools satisfyingly, its not very noisy, but not completely silent as the Daikins, i can hear little of compressor also. (sitting near the window, compressor is like 3 feet away from the window.)

Now just wishing i will have a hassle-less experience with our first ever AC, hope wont have to repair/refill too often.

After spending 40,000 rs, i would expect atleast 5 years of flawless cooling with peace of mind. Fingers crossed..

Mobile SMS Jokes of the Day

Posted: 02 Jun 2012 10:26 AM PDT

Tren me warning likhi thi...bina ticket safar karne wale yatri hoshiyaaar..ye dekh k sardar bola: waah bhenchod, toh jisne tiket li wo chutiye?