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What in god's name is Airtel doing with video streaming? Posted: 23 Feb 2012 11:57 AM PST Quote: @mgcarley: I still don't agree with you. I just did a little experiment. I tried a video on a spectranet connection. While I was under the impression that it was a 4Mbps line, it could be that it's been upgraded, as it's a home office sort of setup there. It's minimum 4Mbps, possible much more. Anyway, the video started immediately. The full 350MB video was loaded / downloaded before I was even maybe 20% my way into the video. No buffering, no hiccups. I came back home, about 30 minutes later. Tried the same video on my Airtel 4Mbps, and while it started playing after a minute or so, I checked my firewall to see that my speed was not going beyond 100 -150 KB/s. (I didn't want to see the same video twice so didn't run it through to check when it would stop and need to buffer). But I think this showed that the same video on the same site, within roughly the same point of time was loading far far faster on a spectranet connection, than on my Airtel connection. If the problem was with the site, route etc. etc. then the results in the two places should not be that dramatically different. I still think there's something especially wrong with Airtel, whether it's routing, traffic shaping etc. I don't know. I know that a couple of months ago I didn't have to give this topic a second's thought. I would just press play on most sites, and the videos would play immediately and would play through without any need of buffering. Now it's very rare that this happens. Also, here's a screenshot of how the speed typical moves when I am trying to see a video. First it picks up to the 400 - 600 KB/s range (and gets me excited :pride:) and then it drops to the 20-30 KB/s range (and I am like meh :disillusionment:) and then it goes to the 0 - 1 KB/s range and chills there for a while (:angry ():), and maybe it will go up again ( and do the same thing) or maybe note and will decide to take a nap in the B/s range. Honest question: Is this normal? It doesn't seem so to me. (I don't you don't get a constant speed while downloading ever, but this kind of fluctuation seems absurd to me!). Here's the screenshot: Bharti connects (basically only) at London. Tata connects globally, like, all over the place. Really. And since Spectranet buys a whole lot more bandwidth from Tata than they do from Bharti, the performance will be much better - as it will be on any ISP buying Tata bandwidth compared to that of an ISP buying Bharti bandwidth - including Airtel itself. Because of this primary difference, the routing (and efficiency thereof) are going to be very different, which matches my experience of routing via different networks of late. The perfect example can be seen by those who follow me on Twitter: up until recently I was ranting about Vodafone's shoddy speedtest results? They peer badly, and certain links are overloaded. The solution was pretty easy: we switched our routing to Vodafone from Bharti to Tata and my pings to Vodafone Mumbai went from 40ms to 5ms. Do I even need to say more? |
Posted: 23 Feb 2012 11:51 AM PST Considering Google is so close to launching Google Drive... I do not see that happening. Box has a profitable business model from what I know. Them and Dropbox have no plans to sell out. Dropbox founders were invited to a meeting by Steve Jobs himself. And he offered them a deal worth around USD 600 million (rumored number) and they refused. Jobs was blunt in the meeting. Told them that Dropbox was not a service but a feature that they would launch in the future. And they launched iCloud as a result. :) Delay in the launch of Google Drive is going to hurt them bad. Microsoft is deeply integration Skydrive with Windows 8. With desktop sync apps scheduled to release for both Windows and Mac along with 25GB free storage... They have a major advantage right now. One of the best planned features of Skydrive is the ability to access any file on your system remotely as long as your computer is on and the Skydrive desktop app is running! That would be freaking awesome. |
Extremely bad service :( Avoid connection in Indranagar zone. Posted: 23 Feb 2012 11:48 AM PST Quote: Dear friend. I beg to differ. I am not pinging some third world country in sub-saharan desert zone. If there is bandwidth issue then its on the end of ACT. If they cant provide decent speeds they should not talk abt 10Mbps plans. I don't know about you but there is hardly anything you download from Indian servers. I think this speed is achieved by internal bandwidth sharing(just like being on LAN) for Indian servers. Also read as i mention connection speed not consistent and download speeds are far worse. I had airtel 4Mbps plan at Sarjapur road and my downloads were much faster. 4Mbps used to mean 500KBps on torrents. On this connection its not even 350KBps. Even direct downloads with available bandwidth in upwards of 2Mbps are resulting in 400Kbps. Come to think of it. There is no reason for us to settle with mediocre connections. The fact that you only get 5mbit/s to London or 3.5mbit/s to Miami is not worth complaining about - Florida is one of the worst connected states in the US of A and as such ALWAYS gives bad results anywhere west of Los Angeles (I've had awful results to FL from Singapore, Malaysia, Australia and NZ), and with London you're competing with all the countries between India and the UK for bandwidth on the few cables that traverse those routes. Not to mention, London's speedtest.net servers are some of the busiest in the region - try Limerick in Ireland or something instead, it's often much better. I'm on an "up to" 100mbit/s connection here in Mumbai. I get maybe 85-90mbit/s within my own network, 75mbit/s to the Mumbai speedtest.net servers, in the 40s and 50s to Chennai, Kochi and Delhi but my results to the rest of the world can vary wildly - doesn't matter if it's the UK, USA or some third-world country. Even on a well-seeded torrent I'm likely to hit only about 30 or 35mbit/s (it usually finishes before it has the chance to get faster), so what do I need to do to saturate the line? Download more than one, of course! Several files downloaded using Bittorrent at an average of 1.... on Twitpic But I digress: none of this is the fault of my ISP (I know it's not a capacity problem), but it is the nature of the Internet that the further away from the source you go, the slower your speeds are going to be. If I download a file from some big website like Microsoft or Apple or Google, it's going to come down at damn-near 100mbit/s, whereas if I download from some random site in any given country, the chances of me hitting anywhere near that speed are very low. As far as ACT's achieving high-speeds by being on a LAN, you're kind of right. This is called peering and is a very good thing (otherwise you get the situation where ISP X in Delhi talks to ISP Y in Noida by diverting traffic to somewhere unnecessarily like France). ACT is also a company that utilizes HUGE amounts of caching (as does Beam in Hyderabad, Fivenet in Mumbai and Alliance in Kolkata, among many others) in order to help it's users achieve these speeds relatively consistently. So why aren't you getting as good speeds on torrents as you did on Airtel? I don't see any good reasons (you should be able to hit a full 1.1mbit/s most of the time, in theory) but there are a few possibilities you're not: ACT may limit the number of connections any one user can maintain. This is both a good and a bad thing but trust me, it's better than traffic shaping (which Airtel now does). Secondly, connection quality can vary by area - whether we compare 1 to another with the same ISP or 1 to another with different ISPs - and if I'm not mistaken, it appears from your original post that you've shifted house. If Airtel was available, would their connection be of the same quality there as it is at your old place? It's anybody's guess. Could there be some port blocking in your router's firewall that's preventing connections to a certain port? Maybe your firewall is preventing connections (check that IPtables or your firewall of choice is allowing transmission or deluge or whatever you're using on your distro to connect on both public and private networks). Lastly, maybe ACT have got in to traffic shaping too? Google for the Glasnost test and find out. Anyway, while I fully agree with your conclusion (there is no reason for you to settle for mediocre connections), I don't agree with how you came to the conclusion. You are on a consumer broadband, not a leased line with a dedicated link between Bangalore and the cities of your choosing, and as such you are rarely going to get full speeds to the world outside India - I hate to say it and please don't be offended, but to think that you're either entitled to (or otherwise going to get without shelling out the requisite cash) is foolish - your ISP (whether Airtel, ACT or otherwise) has a certain amount of bandwidth with which it has to supply anything from a few ten thousands to a few million customers and as a consumer you are paying a lot less for your connection (per megabit) than ACT does, which is why they have to do all this load balancing and sharing - and the same applies to any ISP anywhere in the world. |
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